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1. Ryan for those who don't know, tell us a little bit about you. Give us a
little background.
Born and raised in a small suburb of Chicago called Hinsdale. I had a rather
conservative Christian upbringing which involved eating soap when I swore
and getting spanked with a belt when I came home after the street lights
were turned on. I participated in soccer, baseball, basketball and
gymnastics until the middle of high school. I threw food out of bus windows
at passing cars and felt guilty when I fought with my brothers and sister. I
rode motorcycles since i was six and never quite got into golf as much as my
father would have liked. I have never claimed a political standpoint,
contrary to Feinberg's lucky 7 assumption and never ran for class
governmental position.
2. How was it growing up chi-town? When and how did you get into skating?
Growing up in the midwest is unbearably hot and humid and mosquito infested
in the summer and so you spend all of your time at the pool trying to splash
the lifeguards with can-openers off the diving boards and riding bmx bikes
on little dirt tracks that the city removes because they felt them more
dangerous than the football fields where kids were getting concussions on a
consistent basis. In the winter it is dry and freezing but you get to wear
a snowsuit at recess and build snow forts and throw snowballs and cry when
you have to stay in to finish your lunch that your dad brings late because
you forgot yours.
I grew up skateboarding since my "heat zone" board when I was just a wee lad
and for some reason overlooked the rollerblade frenzy past the days of my
Alan Peterson Santa Monica Airlines deck with the "everslick" coating that
allowed for faster parking-stone boardslides. About 7th grade I got a pair
of Rollerblade's "Coolblades" and proceeded to huck myself down any sets of
stairs I could find. The summer after my freshman year in high school I went
on a church retreat and saw kids frontsiding this 12 stair double rail with
Rollerblade wrenches for grindplates on the old purple and pink TRS'. I
decided then that I needed to either quit skating or get really good and
learn how to grind. Neither ever fully happened, but ten years later, i'm
still trying.
3. When did you decide you wanted to move to Cali? How does it compare to
Chicago?
I had never been to California when I decided I was going to attend college
here. I lived in the East Bay outside San Francisco for four years before
moving to the city for another two and a half. I always felt like San
Francisco was my home once I moved there and would still be up there if I
wasn't given the opportunity to come to San Diego to work for Daily Bread
full time.
California is quite different from Chicago in the respect that it isn't
common to make racial slurs and smoke in bars out here. Also, in California
there is a burrito stand on every other corner whereas Chicago uses hot dogs
and Italian beef sandwiches as their staple foods. Each has its ups and
downs but I don't see myself returning to such an unstable climate anytime
soon. What I miss most about Chicago is the opportunity to hang out with my
family who have taught me, due to our own insanity, to be patient with the
rest of the crazies this world has to offer.
4. For awhile there you were quite the ripper. (notthatyoustilldont) In
early VG's and Daily Bread. Tell us about your skating style, what where
your goals back then as a Rollerblader.
I was always pretty mediocre as far as talent and style were concerned.
Being in the right place at the right time allowed for some random coverage
over the last 7 years. At first, I had dillusional dreams like every average
joe from an average scene that wasn't all that exposed to sponsorship. After
a while, I accepted my fate and continued to blade, throwing down when the
time was ripe for a little ego boosting photos and such.
5. What was the skating scene like back then? Has it gotten better or worse?
The same tired argument has been said of the Hoax 2 days that blading was
trendy and all the corporate jerks joined up to cash in and now its dead but
that's a good thing because we can start all over with only the "core"
companies working hard to make a stable industry for the future. Well, I
have been hearing that for about six years now and things are looking worse
than ever. People want us to not talk about the state of affairs because
they believe if we close our eyes and not mention the situation at hand, we
will make it go away with nice words and wishful thinking. I don't believe
its negative to take a realistic view of what's going on in order to focus
on how we can make this thing work. I don't want kids buying into our
industry with any false hopes of getting sponsored quick and ending up like
Tony Hawk showing off their houses on MTV cribs. I heard some kid who was at
the park the other day say, "I'm done with this, you either have to be a
little kid or pro to rollerblade." It's this type of mentality that stops
people from skating once they realize they aren't going to make a living
doing it. For some reason, it seems absurd to them that you might want to
skate just because you like it. Those are the exact people we need to keep
around and keep buying product. Kids get to a point where they feel cheated
if they don't get hooked up with product once they have been around long
enough and so they quit because of this whole rush to get sponsored and
famous nonsense.
People need to look at rollerblading for what it is and decide whether they
want to work with each other to move this sport forward, or make a bunch of
money and retire with a yacht and a vacation house. If the latter is in your
sights, go back to school and study finance, marry a sugar momma and hope
her daddy gives you enough money to invest in some real estate or stocks. If
you give a shit about putting 100% of your energy into kicking ass in life
and producing some quality deals surrounding something you actually enjoy
doing, well, i guess that's what we all have to decide. So, has it gotten
better or worse? Well, it is all a matter of perspective and since I can
only speak for myself, I would say better. The scene has changed from
something I didn't even see as an option for involvement outside of simply
skating for fun, to a viable career that has given me the potential to
become as successful and happy as doing any sort of other more traditional
work.
6. Do you still find the time to roll for fun? What's your set up?
I try and skate the park a few times a week. It's annoying to me to keep
getting kicked out of spots and so I have more fun at a park where there is
a lot more than just one thing to skate at a time. Sometimes I see something
on street that just makes sense with my once trick vocabulary. I am scared
to soul grind a handicap rail but if there is a sweet looking rail that I
can backside once in a while, I will give it a whirl. You can check me out
in the new 4x4 video's (Leading the Blind) friend's section. I wasn't too
stoked on my sketchy landing but definately too scared to try it again.
I can't seem to find a skate that I like more than Solomons. If they stop
making skates I am really gonna be bummed because I am gonna have to ransack
Play It Again Sports for used pairs in a size 9. So if anyone has any old
Solomons they don't use in that size, please feel free to mail them to daily
bread. I mean, I guess I could put a different pair of skates on, but do I
really want to slip out when I pull a crossover turn due to the ping pong
paddle soul plates they use these days?
7. What got you into shooting photos? Was there a moment when it just
"clicked" that you were gonna become a photographer?
Skating got me into shooting photos. As long as i have been skating, i have
been shooting photos. For some reason, I never really tried to learn how to
shoot a proper skate photo until I was already done with college. I was
pretty sure I wanted to go into business and that was my main focus until I
realized how bored I was with it all. I spent all my time in college skating
and gradually I figured it was silly to keep forcing myself in a direction I
apparently didn't want to go in. It didn't ever occur to me that I should do
something as "impractical" as become a skate photographer, but now I can't
believe I was so naive to not see what I should have been doing all along. I
wouldn't change my decision for anything and now I believe I have the
opportunity to become a much better person than had I stayed on the path I
was on. i am not saying good people don't exist in business pursuits, I just
wouldn't have been any good at it. It's strange because I worried so much
about what I wanted to do with my life and I guess you could say that there
was a moment when it did just "click." I see people freaking out all the
time about trying to figure out what they should do as a career and its easy
once you've found it to say, "Relax, it will come," but that truly is the
only advice you can give.
8. Shooting skate photos is certainly not just point and shoot, How much
really goes into shooting quality photos?
I still have a lot to learn about shooting skate photos. It would be a lot
easier if you didn't have to worry about deadlines, getting kicked out, and
working with the skater to find something they are comfortable with. These
limitations are what makes it exciting and challenging though. There is a
long history of photos to learn from as far as the technical aspect is
concerned but I think dealing with all the other aspects is what presents
the biggest problem. If there was unlimited time to go to a spot and really
study what the best way to shoot the photo would be, the results would
improve drastically. The problem is that what the skaters are doing is so
difficult, that you can't really take the time necessary to go over all the
potential solutions to each photo. Product photographers can spend an entire
day to get one photo of a shoe for cryin' out loud and it's not even moving.
The shoe doesn't get hungry or bored or tired or impatient or hassled by
security guards, it just sits there looking good. But who wants to hang out
with a shoe all day? I am really grateful for all the skaters who have
worked with me to produce photos. Not only are they busting their ass, but
they are usually pretty good about dealing with what probably seems like too
much set up time. Nothing happens without them and so I truly appreciate
those willing to understand what we are trying to do and actively
participate in the effort required to get a good photo.
9. How did you make the transition from shooting "Back yard"
photos to
being a staff photographer for Daily bread and going on tours?
The transition took quite some time. I suppose by being persistant and
continuing to study the photos i was shooting and the ones that the pros had
published, I was able to determine the difference between what made a good
skate photo and what didn't. It helps a lot to ask as many questions as you
can to the people who have already had the experience making the mistakes
you make while you are learning. I remember how irritated Busta used to get
at me because it seemed to him that I was asking so many questions. I think
he felt cheated because he didn't want to give away all the information he
had worked so hard to learn. From my perspective now, I would love to tell
each and every beginning photographer everything I know because it's only
going to produce more quality photographers in the industry that we can rely
on and allow them to make better images faster. I don't want kids just
picking up a camera to waste all the time and money I did to figure out a
few simple rules I can tell them right off the bat. Just basic technical
stuff really. The whole "art" of the process is totally up to the
photographer. I don't feel very advanced in the creative end of rollerblade
photograhy. I feel it is more important to efficiently document the skating
going on in a manner that allows the viewer to not even notice it's a photo,
but look at it and say, "that is an amazing soul grind," not, "that is an
amazing photo of a soul grind." This is probably all blasphemy to a more
pretentious view of what we are doing but...whatever
10. What has been your most memorable tour? Remember the Vancouver situation
with Brett?
Hah, yeah, the Vancouver situation was one of those tours I went on before I
even had photos published and I just figured I could go on a tour and get a
story run in Daily Bread. I am so glad I had that perspective because I had
so many rad experiences that I would never would have had if I wasn't all
excited about documenting our roadtrips. They all were really poor
photographically and never really had a chance to get in the magazine but I
learned so much and met so many people, it was amazing. I think the "Hotter
than Hell" tour story was the first one I was commissioned to shoot for a
magazine. That was pretty memorable. 28 days in a van with Oli Short, Pat
Lennen, BJ Burnheart, Justin Eisinger and Angie Walton. Shit, I could talk
for days about touring. No tour is boring when you have a camera. Before
working for Daily Bread though I managed to see Canada, South Africa,
Portugal, Ireland, England, Spain, Italy, Switzerland and pretty damn near
every state in the U.S. trying to get skate photos.
11. Do you have a favorite photo that you have shot?
The one I seem to get the most response for is the portrait of Collin Carr
in the Am Issue of Daily Bread with Ski on the cover. It was such a
production because I had to build the whole boxing ring in Sayer's garage
with whatever he had lying around, spend about two hours testing the
lighting to get it just the way I wanted it (with the help of Mike
Graffigna) and then try and direct a house full of drunks to act as extras
in a scene where the subject was boxing a floor lamp. It sucks it had to be
run so small that you can't see all the details of the photo, but people
seemed to still pay attention to it somehow.
12. Words of advice to up and coming photographer?
Shoot as many photos as possible, never hesitate for any reason to do the
extra whatever it takes to get the photo how you want it. Always remember to
go back and really study your photos and try and figure out why the good
ones work and the rest simply don't. Ask as many people as you can for
feedback but find a nice balance between your initial gut reaction and what
other people have to say about the photos. Research tons of other
photographer and try and figure out why you like certain photos and don't
like others. Ask as many questions as you can from people who have already
been through the same learning processes you have. I am down to devote as
much time as I have available to people who want to start shooting so hit me
up at photo@dbmag.com.
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